2020. 7. 17 Interview with Abbot Huiren

1.     寺庙建成的过程是什么,有什么阻碍?

《高僧传》记载历代的出家人修行好的人,其中提到了兴圣禅寺出了一位高僧。2009年7月初一来建立寺庙,寺院的旧址有状元桥,其中有一块桥板上面有一个明朝的石碑,记载了寺庙的历史。这个地方最早是贞观元年修建的,一直到明朝重修了一次,历史上一直叫做兴盛宝塔,唐朝重修宝塔的过程一直持续了17年,各种灾难都没有被破坏。塔的地宫里面有舍利子的器皿,明朝万历33年的时候拿出来过,后来封死了,直到解放前被炸毁还没有被请出来过。

 

大师在2007年的下半年正定有他的皈依弟子有一个在蠡县,那里有一个庙想请出家人,后来居士不放权,7个月之后又回归。不到半个月之后,有一位老居士去了蠡县,村里有一个人得了重病,脑瘤反复发作;男孩受了惊吓,精神不正常。做了几次法事,孩子们都好了。后来老人们希望恢复宝塔,说是出家人留下的,还要请出家人来管理,问了师傅能不能过来看看。2009年的夏天来了一次,这一片地有200-300棵杨树,还有一个大坑。大师说他建了很多寺院,但是师傅决定自己修建寺庙,因为自己心里不安,希望白手起家。大师嘱咐师傅说这个过程很困难,要有心理准备,出家的资源微薄,都要想好了。但是当时师傅没有考虑这些,不论有钱没钱,如果运势强盛就能建立起来,只要人能在当地待得住说明有无形的护法能保护你。

 

一开始在文化园住,大坑最深的地方有5米,村委会和主任都比较支持,请了吃饭,后来2009年底免费填满了大坑。村里一开始没有多少信众,阻力极大,一个月就只有200元钱。后来认识了县城的居士,他们希望有一个活动场所,师傅也随即到县城去化缘,周围去企业里面要钱。运作了多半年,有十几万块钱,有一个彩钢房。这样的情况一直持续到2013年,开始建立这个寺庙的第一个建筑:白塔。参照了致远塔,是一个缩小的旅游观光塔,每一层都永久性的每佛像,需要每人2000块钱,大佛是5万块钱,一共3000尊佛。宣传了一年,预约了佛像的位置,收集了40-50万,在八个多月的过程中完工,2014年正式建成,花费200万。在2014年的34月份,开始建立大殿的奠基,建了一年多。

 

中午吃完饭在屋里坐着,有人敲门,是一个路过的人来请求治病,大概9岁的女孩在北京301治了大半年,因为骨髓里面有肿瘤。师傅让女孩下车,带她到彩钢房的佛堂里面,有金色的观音菩萨。师傅嘱咐她回家之后想菩萨能给你治病,矿泉水就是净瓶里的水,去观想吧,病就能好了。师傅说要是皈依了佛教就是有保护伞,有的孩子是童男童女命,希望把她找回去,神仙也要给佛的面子,于是女孩留下了名字生日,住址。半个月之后回来了,管子都撤了,疾病越来越好,一年之后一直在观想菩萨,可以走路了。复查的时候医院震惊了,因为这种疾病没有成活率,但是却肿瘤细胞都不见了。母亲是河北定州的老家,父亲是南方人,因为师傅保住了孩子的命,他们问师傅能否烧香供养菩萨行不行?师傅于是请了佛像和菩萨来供养。在女孩父亲送师傅回来的路上,父亲提出建大殿。说好了阴历的3月21奠基,当时来了很多居士。当时正好在大殿上方的晴天出现彩虹,很吉祥。师傅就让女孩的父亲与建筑队直接沟通。先用了两车白灰8000元,孩子的父亲随即走了。等到地基与地面已经持平,该给钱了,但是打电话不接也打不通。有一天换了号码打电话,师傅问工程没停,该给钱了怎么办?对方声称没有承诺。当时师傅明白一定会有报应,和建筑队伍说停工但是工人不愿停工,又干了一年半的时间才完工,过程中一直都有人给钱,两年时间300万就收集好了,半年又收集了50万。又过了两年时间,小女孩的妈妈承认了错误,师傅说他们启动了大殿的落成,还要感谢孩子的父母。孩子的母亲说孩子突然头疼,长了脑瘤,但是一直没脸回来。后来从正月一直八月十五去了各种寺庙,甚至到了甘肃给孩子消灾,到第五天孩子终于受不了了,庙里面有一个修行高深的老师傅,他问孩子的父母:“你们知道去哪里可以救命,为什么不找那个人去呢?”师傅听罢明白这是因缘不对。孩子的父母实在没有办法才回来。师傅说:“第一次是和菩萨的缘分,第二次也要尽我的能力。”下车之后孩子进了大门头一下就不疼了,但是半身不遂,嘴歪眼斜,回去三天脸就正过来了,终于给了修建大殿的部分欠款70多万。18岁孩子也死了。后来建立了天王殿和东西的配殿。师傅还说别有用心,争权夺利的人都受到了报应,修建寺庙的钱不是谁可以惦记的。

 

2013年修建白塔的第一天,建筑队做了地质勘探,把周围的地打了三四米深的大坑,头一天的中午11点钟,师傅叫工人们用大灶吃饭,走到坑边上,有的人还在干活。听到墙外面有木板的声音,突然之间看见一个龙卷风跨过围墙(周围没有风),在坑旁边转了三圈,把师傅围了起来,向寺院的旧址方向走了。第二天同一时间又来了一次。师傅马上明白了是天龙护法,是老护法和新护法的交接过程,在这期间,也有人梦见黑龙和金龙。大殿落成之后师傅想建立一个九龙壁,但是当时没有钱,结果用了机器雕刻,花费了78万块钱,准备安装。有几个石匠从县城里来,看出了这是机械雕刻的,跟师傅建议应该细节的地方用手工修理修理,干了一个礼拜。当时龙是发白的,工人们希望用盐酸做旧把九龙壁变成深色。工人用一个瓷碗,向九龙从上往下做旧,在龙犄角上面滴了一滴盐酸。砰的一声,从九龙壁底下起了一股旋风把电扇掀翻了,周围风平浪静。师傅说是灵性已经附在龙的身体上了,龙王腾起来了。

 

寺院的护法一直不会走,比如说老的护法从唐朝贞观年间一直进行保护寺院至今,即使原来的寺庙已经被拆毁。建寺庙不单纯是人的力量,没有神的保护和加持什么都建不起来。同时护法可以避免人们的受伤,一般寺院很少出现施工方面的意外。比如说建塔的过程是违规的,为了节约成本搭上脚手架。本来应该用机械设备,但是一天就是几千块钱,师傅出不起。大家也不是国家正规的建筑队,很多人因为干活不便也不佩戴安全带,有一个人差点失手掉下来,幸好抓住了面前的钢管。最终还是有惊无险,没有出现任何意外。

2.     轮回的积分问题:

只有发利他的心才算是做好事。甚至有时候明知做不成也要坚持正确的事情。比如老和尚去化缘,到处捡废弃建筑材料。有的护法居士说要管管徒弟,因为他们学着吸毒。老和尚说:“他造他的业,我积我的德“ 这是因为每个人都有自己的性质,有自己的因果,这是讲不了道理。很多轮回中的欠债不是自己决定的。有的人为了一毛钱等一万年,这是能量守恒的道理。一定要无私地做好事,不要有任何的成就感,一念之差功德就变成福报了,降级了,生死把它挂上了,就没有办法解决生死的问题了,只有功德才能解决根本问题。

1. What was the process of temple building and what were the obstacles?

The "Biography of High Monks" records the monks who practiced well throughout the ages, and it is mentioned that a high monk came out of Xing Sheng Zen Temple. 2009 July 1st came to establish the temple, and the old site of the temple has the Scholar's Bridge, in which there is a stone tablet of Ming Dynasty on top of a bridge plate, which records the history of the temple. This place was first built in the first year of the Zhenguan period and was rebuilt once until the Ming Dynasty. Historically, it has been called the Prosperity Pagoda, and the process of rebuilding the Pagoda in the Tang Dynasty lasted for 17 years, and various disasters were not destroyed. The underground palace of the pagoda contains the vessels of the relics, which were taken out in the 33rd year of Wanli in the Ming Dynasty and later sealed, and were not invited out until they were blown up before the liberation.

The Master had one of his converted disciples in the second half of 2007 in Zhengding in Li County, where a temple wanted to invite a monk, and then the priest did not release his authority, and then returned after 7 months. Less than half a month later, there was an old monk went to Li County, the village has a person with a serious illness, recurring brain tumor; the boy was frightened and mentally unstable. After doing several pujas, the boy got well. Later the old people wanted to restore the pagoda, said it was left by the monks, but also to invite monks to manage, asked the master can come over to see. 2009 summer came once, the land has 200-300 poplar trees, and a large pit. The master said he had built many temples, but the master decided to build the temple himself because he was restless and wanted to start with nothing. The master instructed the master that the process was difficult, that he should be mentally prepared, that the resources for starting a monastery were meager, and that he should think it all through. But at that time the master did not consider these, whether rich or poor, if the fortune is strong you can establish, as long as people can stay in the local means that there is an invisible protector can protect you.

At the beginning to live in the cultural park, the deepest part of the big pit is 5 meters, the village committee and the director are more supportive, invited to dinner, and then the end of 2009 filled the big pit for free. There were not many believers in the village at first, and the resistance was so great that there was only 200 yuan a month. Later met the county residents, they want to have a place of activity, the master also then went to the county to make money, around to ask for money inside the enterprise. Operation for more than half a year, there are more than 100,000 yuan, there is a color steel room. This situation continued until 2013, when the first building of the temple was built: the White Pagoda. Referring to the Zhiyuan Pagoda, it is a scaled-down tourist tourism pagoda, with each layer permanently each Buddha statue, which costs 2,000 yuan per person, and the big Buddha is 50,000 yuan, for a total of 3,000 Buddhas. Publicity for a year, the appointment of the Buddha statue, collected 400,000-500,000, completed in the process of more than eight months, officially completed in 2014, costing 2 million. In the 34th month of 2014, the foundation stone of the main hall was started and built for more than a year.

After lunch and sitting in the house, there was a knock on the door, a passing person came to ask for treatment, about 9-year-old girl in Beijing 301 for most of the year, because of a tumor inside the bone marrow. The master told the girl to get out of the car and took her to the Buddha Hall inside the colorful steel room with the golden Guanyin Bodhisattva. The master instructed her to go home and think of the Bodhisattva can give you a cure, mineral water is the water in the net bottle, go and think about it, the disease will be cured. The master said if you convert to Buddhism is to have an umbrella, some children are virgin life, hope to find her back, the gods also have to give face to the Buddha, so the girl left the name birthday, address. Half a month later came back, the tube are withdrawn, the disease is getting better and better, a year later has been watching the Bodhisattva, can walk. The hospital was shocked when the review was done, because this disease has no viability, but yet the tumor cells are gone. The mother is the hometown of Hebei Dingzhou, the father is from the south, because the master saved the child's life, they asked the master if they could burn incense to offer the bodhisattva okay? Master then invited the Buddha statue and Bodhisattva to make offerings. On the way back from the girl's father sending the master, the father offered to build a big hall. It was agreed that the foundation stone would be laid on March 21 of the lunar calendar, and many monks came at that time. At that time it happened that a rainbow appeared on a clear day above the main hall, which was very auspicious. The master let the girl's father communicate directly with the construction team. Two carts of white ash were used first for 8,000 yuan, and the child's father then left. When the foundation and the ground had been leveled, it was time to pay, but the phone did not answer and could not be reached. One day changed the number to call, the master asked the project did not stop, it is time to pay how to do? The other party claimed no commitment. At that time, the master understood that there must be retribution, and the construction team said to stop work but the workers did not want to stop, and then do a year and a half to complete the process has been someone to give money, two years of time 3 million collected, and half a year to collect 500,000. After another two years, the little girl's mother admitted her mistake, and the master said they started the completion of the hall and had to thank the child's parents. The child's mother said the child suddenly had a headache and a brain tumor, but never had the face to come back. Then from the first month until August 15 went to various temples, even to Gansu to give the child to eliminate the disaster, to the fifth day the child finally could not stand, the temple inside a highly practiced teacher, he asked the child's parents: "You know where to go to save lives, why not find that person to go?" The master heard and understood that this was the wrong karma. The child's parents really had no choice before they came back. The master said, "The first time is the karma with the Bodhisattva, the second time also to do my best." After getting off the bus, the child's head stopped hurting when he entered the gate, but he was partially paralyzed, his mouth was crooked and his eyes were slanted, and his face was corrected in three days after he returned, finally giving more than 700,000 yuan for the part of the money owed for the construction of the main hall. 18-year-old child also died. Later, the Tien Wang Hall and the supporting halls of the East and West were built. The master also said that ulterior motives, people who compete for power and profit have received retribution, and the money for building the temple is not something that anyone can miss.

The first day of the construction of the White Pagoda in 2013, the construction team did geological exploration, the ground around the three to four meters deep pit, the first day of 11 o'clock at noon, the master called workers with a large stove to eat, walk to the edge of the pit, some people are still working. Hearing the sound of planks outside the wall, suddenly saw a tornado across the fence (no wind around), turned three times next to the pit, surrounded the master and went in the direction of the old site of the monastery. The next day at the same time came again. The master immediately understood that it was the heavenly dragon guardian, the process of handing over the old guardian and the new guardian, during which there were also dreams of black and golden dragons. After the completion of the main hall the master wanted to build a nine-dragon wall, but there was no money at that time, and as a result a machine carving was used, costing 780,000 yuan, ready for installation. A few stonemasons came from the county and saw that it was mechanically carved, and suggested to the master that the details should be repaired and repaired by hand, which took a week to do. At that time, the dragon was white, the workers wanted to use hydrochloric acid to make old to turn the nine dragon wall into a dark color. The workers used a porcelain bowl to make the nine dragons old from top to bottom, and dropped a drop of hydrochloric acid on top of the dragon horns. With a bang, a whirlwind from the bottom of the Nine Dragons wall overturned the electric fan, and the surrounding wind was calm. The master said it was the spirit had attached to the body of the dragon, the dragon king rose up.

The guardian of the temple has never gone away, for example, the old guardian has been carrying on protecting the temple from the Ch'ing-Guan period of the Tang Dynasty until now, even though the original temple has been demolished. Building a temple is not simply a matter of human power; nothing can be built without the protection and empowerment of God. At the same time the protection prevents people from getting hurt, and generally there are few construction-related accidents at temples. For example, the process of building the pagoda was illegal, and scaffolding was put up to save costs. Should have used mechanical equipment, but a day is several thousand dollars, the master can not afford. Everyone is not the country's formal construction team, many people because of the inconvenience of work also do not wear seat belts, there is a person almost missed a fall, but fortunately grabbed the steel pipe in front of. In the end, there was no accident.

2. The problem of points of reincarnation.

Only sending altruistic hearts is considered good deeds. Even sometimes know that you can not do but also insist on the right thing. For example, the old monk went to make karma and picked up discarded construction materials everywhere. Some of the guardian monks said they had to control their disciples because they were learning to do drugs. The old monk said, "He creates his karma, I accumulate my virtue." This is because everyone has his own nature, his own karma, which cannot be reasoned. Many debts owed in the cycle of reincarnation are not self-determined. Some people wait 10,000 years for a penny, which is the truth of energy conservation. Must be selfless to do good, do not have any sense of achievement, a thought of merit will become a blessing, downgraded, life and death put it on the hook, there is no way to solve the problem of life and death, only merit can solve the fundamental problem.