2020. 7. 16 Interview with Abbot Huiren

问题01:

临济宗是否也阅读佛经,还是以参话头为主?

回答:

每种宗派都要读佛经,理论依据如果没有就没法修行。

问题02:

学习禅宗的方法是什么?是不是像我们平时读书一样学习呢?

回答:

学习佛法,尤其是禅宗的佛法,不能把它当成学问去做。不是学问也不是知识,你想想,你看书,学习,上学,这些都是从别人,从老师那里得到,你自己没有,自己不懂;佛法不是,佛法是你本有的。参禅从开始到最终开悟每个人的进度不一样。有的人可能是一世,有的人是多少世,所以佛教讲发长远心,从一个凡人到成佛,需要很长时间。要有耐心,要有毅力。

问题03:

什么是禅宗和别的宗派的区别?

回答:

禅宗区别于其它宗派最大的特点就是其它宗派有法可依,有个拐棍可柱,比如说念佛法门,最起码有一句佛号让你读,有个东西让你抓得住;密宗呢,持咒,磕大头,修四家行等等,有很多中依归;律宗就是戒律,有好多规矩,每天遵守,像开车一样,每一个路口都要遵守交通规则,要有一个东西能依据。禅宗没有,禅宗是大解脱。

问题04:

如果没有法可依如何达到大解脱的境界?

回答:

比如说众生都是病人,什么病?思想上的病。佛就是大医王,当你通过受戒律,念佛,修行,持咒,你所执着的那些习气,习惯都改正了,病好了药就不用吃了。禅宗是单刀直入的,一个人最原始的时候,最初的时候都是一个健康的人,为什么有病呢?都来源于我们投生在这个世界以后,有了缘,缘起,我们本来清净的这颗心,就和缘掺和到一起了。比如说喝茶,吃好东西,看到钱,都有一个我出现,这个我就是第七识,眼耳鼻舌身意见到的东西产生反应,起心动念,据为己有,到后来,得到的就产生贪爱,得不到的就产生愚痴和嗔恨。这个缘起就是我们造的一个因,或善或恶,这个世界恶比善多,不及时刹车,这个恶会一直循环下去。

问题05:

禅宗经典和其它经典有什么区别?

回答:

这个区别主要是偏重点不一样,比如说你以后上大学,是学文科还是学理科的;爱哲学还是文学,你喜欢理性的还是感性的,根据我们每个人的接受能力吧。但是每种方法都是把我们从那种执着里面解脱出来,结果我们本有的那种健康,就是佛性。是单刀直入,挺彻底的这么一种方法。

问题06:

我的理解是禅宗所说的发长远心就是达成结果长远,并不是过程中有很多别的追求,是这样吗?

回答:

你先把理论搞清楚,它是本来无一物的状态,尤其是知识分子学这个很困难。你脑子里的知识越多,懂得越多,越不容易进入状态。禅宗是这间屋子彻底腾清,打扫干净,所以它没有任何东西。你别管这里面放的是金银财宝也好,放着一屋子垃圾也好,全部把它清理干净,留下它本来原有的空间。所以有的时候我们学的东西太多了,舍不得把它们处理掉,这个不行。在佛法里头修这个禅,你必须“离己知见,入佛知见“离开我们自己的所知所见,就是我们说的本我执和法我执,你离开自己的思维模式才有可能进入佛的思维模式,实际上佛也不是思维。

问题07:

如果说是破除自己的知见就是应当忘掉自己所学的知识吗?

回答:

不是忘了,是明明白白。开悟之后腾不腾出去就一样了,没有什么区别。所以这些事你要先修,进入状态之后就知道问题在哪了。唐宋时候的人根基特别深厚,一言半句就能开悟,不需要这么麻烦,现在的人就是因为这个时代信息量爆炸,像我小时候电脑,什么都没有,还在那傻玩呢(笑)。唐宋的僧人就像现在的中科院教授,佛教,儒家,道教知识都非常通达,我说的这个所知障啊,法执清理干净,不是你不知道,是经历过这些事请才能解决你想解决的事情。儒家道家解决不了生死的问题,佛家能解决。佛家的目的就是了生死,不再进入这个轮回了,即使进了轮回也是成就以后再来,比如说我成罗汉了,或成菩萨了,到这个世界演了一出戏我又回家了,就这么简单。可是现在我们不是演戏,是进入角色了,迷在人事物的环境里解脱不出来,修行就用这个演员的心,台上比如说演一个小丑,逗得大家哈哈大笑,台下可不是小丑。

问题08:

转世的过程中人们前世的修行是否还管用?

回答:

投生到这个世界上的人即使是罗汉,也容易迷。比如说人吧,在母体里十月怀胎,这十个月怎么待呢?转胎。婴儿在成形的时候现有胎心,然后躯干,头,四肢。所以这一转呢,就把过去的修行转没了,不是没有了,就像人转圈,本来看的清清楚楚,一转就没了。所以我们讲唐僧取经,唐僧是个有修行的人,他从沙漠路过新疆,看到一块沙漠的土质与众不同。过去出家人要带着方便铲,是掩埋死尸的工具,甚至是后来到唐朝也是农具。他当时就往下一挖,挖出一个人来。因为他也是修行人,他知道这个人不是死人,是活人。结果呢,他用引磬一敲,这个人就从定当中,可能魂已经在外头飘着了,醒过来以后玄奘法师就问这位老修行,入定多长时间了?这个人说我是在燃灯佛涅槃之后入的定,我知道燃灯佛之后是释迦佛出世,当时就发愿等释迦佛出世帮助他弘法。可你想想这释迦佛都圆寂1000多年了,这个历史长河不知道多长时间,是个天文数字。这人说我又错过了,玄奘说弥勒佛出世56亿多年,你不知道能遇见谁,重新投胎吧,17年之后再帮助我弘法吧。随即玄奘就把这个人就地掩埋了,老僧的灵魂去往长安投胎。唐僧回来问了李世民,计算日子发现是开国大将尉迟恭的儿子,正好也是17岁,李世民下令让他出家。他不愿意,因为这17年养成了很多习气,提了三个条件:带书,厨师,美女。唐僧知道他是迷了,把前世那么高的定力都忘了,到了寺院门前,正好在敲钟,钟声传得非常远,就这一声,一下子就把尉迟恭的儿子从梦里一下子唤醒了,“哦,原来和法师是这个关系“,一下子觉醒了。迷和觉之间就是一念,让三大车回家。就是有这样深厚定力的人也容易迷,所以修行就是点醒他。

问题09:

入定是什么感受?

回答:

入定是把世界上所有的幸福加在一起,这个感觉只有自己知道,因为每个人都有自己的标准。没有人发明过一个词汇来形容。有的人开好车是幸福,有的是吃好定西是幸福。标准不一样,所以定的状态难出来。

问题10:

佛祖为什么不让人们看到前世

你想这个道理,有一个人拿投影仪,就是第八识的仓库钥匙。即使是知道了这辈子的事也没有关系,这辈子的业力和因缘一般人事放不下的。人的思维是能快乐一世是一世,对于了生死的事情是没考虑过的,所以修行呢,还是要自己修炼。不能依靠神通

Question 01.

Does Rinzai Buddhism also read the sutras or is it mainly about attending to the Word of God?

Answer.

Every sect has to read the sutras, and without a theoretical basis it is impossible to practice.

Question 02.

What is the method of studying Zen Buddhism? Is it like studying as we normally do?

Answer.

Studying Buddhism, especially Zen Buddhism, cannot be done as if it were a study. It is not learning nor is it knowledge. Think about it, you read books, you study, you go to school, you get all this from others, from teachers, you don't have it yourself, you don't understand it yourself; Buddhism is not, Buddhism is what you have. From the beginning of meditation to the final enlightenment everyone progresses differently. Some may be one life, some are many lives, so Buddhism talks about developing a long-term mind, and it takes a long time to go from a mortal to becoming a Buddha. You have to be patient and have perseverance.

Question 03.

What is the difference between Zen Buddhism and other sects?

Answer.

The biggest characteristic that distinguishes Zen from other sects is that other sects have a law to follow, a crutch to hold on to, for example, in the Nenbutsu sect, at least there is a Buddha's name for you to read and something for you to hold on to; in the Tantric sect, there are many mediums to follow, such as holding mantras, kowtowing, practicing the four schools, etc.; in the Ritsu sect, there are precepts, many rules to follow every day, just like driving, you have to follow the traffic rules at every intersection, you have to have a There must be something to go by. Zen Buddhism does not have that. Zen Buddhism is the great liberation.

Question 04.

If there is no law to follow, how can one achieve the state of great liberation?

Answer.

For example, all sentient beings are sick, what kind of sickness? The disease of the mind. Buddha is the great healer. When you correct all those habits and habits you cling to by taking precepts, chanting, practicing, and holding mantras, the medicine will not be needed when you are well. Zen Buddhism is single-minded, a person in the most primitive time, initially a healthy person, why is there disease? Why do we have illnesses? It all comes from the fact that after we are born in this world, there is karma, karma, our originally pure mind, and karma mixed together. For example, if we drink tea, eat good food, or see money, there is a me, and this me is the seventh sense, and the eyes, ears, nose, tongue, and body will react to what they see, and they will think about it and take it for themselves. This karma is a cause we make, either good or evil, and there is more evil than good in this world.

Question 05.

What is the difference between the Zen classics and other classics?

Answer.

The difference is mainly that the emphasis is different, for example, if you go to university later, whether you study arts or science; whether you love philosophy or literature, whether you like rational or emotional, according to each of our receptive abilities. But each method is to free us from that attachment, and as a result, the kind of health that we have, which is Buddha nature. It's a straightforward method, quite thorough.

Question 06.

My understanding is that what Zen Buddhism means by developing a long-term mind is to achieve a long-term result, not to have a lot of other pursuits in the process, is that right?

Answer.

It is very difficult, especially for intellectuals, to learn this. The more knowledge you have in your head, the more you know, the less likely you are to get into the state. Zen Buddhism is a room that is completely cleared and cleaned, so there is nothing in it. It doesn't matter whether there is gold or silver or a room full of garbage, it's all cleaned up and left in its original space. So sometimes we learn too much and we can't get rid of them. To practice Zen in Buddhism, you have to "leave your own knowledge and enter the Buddha's knowledge" and leave what we know and see, that is, what we call the principal self and the Dharma self.

Question 07.

If we say that we should break our own knowledge, does it mean that we should forget what we have learned?

Answer.

It's not forgetting, it's clarity. After enlightenment it is the same whether you vacate it or not, there is no difference. So you have to practice these things first, and when you get into the state, you will know what the problem is. People in the Tang and Song dynasties had particularly deep roots, and they could become enlightened with a word and a half, so they didn't need such trouble. Nowadays, people are just playing silly because of the explosion of information in this era, like when I was a kid with a computer, there was nothing there (laughs). The monks of the Tang and Song dynasties were like the present professors of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism knowledge are very well versed, I am talking about this knowledge barrier, ah, the law to clean up, not you do not know, is to experience these things to solve the things you want to solve. Confucianism and Taoism can not solve the problem of life and death, Buddhism can solve. The purpose of Buddhism is to end life and death, not to enter this cycle again, and even if I enter the cycle, I will come back after I have achieved, for example, I have become a Lohan, or a Bodhisattva, and I have come to this world to perform a play, and I have come back home. But now we are not acting, we are entering the role, lost in the environment of human things, and can't get out, practice with this actor's mind, for example, on stage to play a clown, make everyone laugh, but off stage is not a clown.

Question 08.

Does the practice of people in their previous lives still work during the process of reincarnation?

Answer.

People who are reborn in this world, even if they are Rohan, are easily lost. For example, if a person is conceived in the mother's body in October, how do they stay in these ten months? Transferring the fetus. When a baby is formed, it has a fetal heart, then a torso, head, and limbs. Therefore, when the baby turns, the past practice is lost, not gone, just like when a person turns in a circle. So we talk about the Tang monk taking the scriptures, the Tang monk is a person with cultivation, he passed by Xinjiang from the desert and saw a desert with different soil. In the past, monks had to carry a convenient shovel, which was a tool for burying dead bodies, and even later, in the Tang Dynasty, it was a farming tool. He dug down at that time and dug out a man. Since he was a practitioner, he knew that this person was not a dead person, but a living person. When he struck the chime, the man came out of the meditation, and his soul was probably floating outside, and when he woke up, Venerable Xuanzang asked the old practitioner how long he had been in meditation. This man said I entered the meditation after the nirvana of the Burning Lamp Buddha, and I knew that after the Burning Lamp Buddha came the Sakyamuni Buddha, so I made a vow to wait for the Sakyamuni Buddha to come out and help him to spread the Dharma. But think about this Sakyamuni Buddha has passed away more than 1000 years, this long history does not know how long, is an astronomical number. The man said I missed it again, Xuanzang said Maitreya Buddha came out more than 5.6 billion years, you do not know who you can meet, reincarnation, 17 years later to help me teach the law. Then Xuanzang buried the man on the spot, and the old monk's soul went to Chang'an to reincarnate. When the Tang monk came back and asked Li Shimin, he calculated the date and found that he was the son of the founding general Yuchi Gong, who also happened to be 17 years old, and Li Shimin ordered him to become a monk. He did not want to, because these 17 years developed a lot of habits, mentioned three conditions: with books, chef, beautiful women. The Tang monk knew he was lost and forgot all his so high determination in his previous life. When he arrived at the door of the monastery, he happened to be ringing the bell, and the sound of the bell carried very far, just this sound, at once, woke up the son of Yuchi Gong from his dream at once, "Oh, so this is the relationship with the Venerable Master", and awakened at once. Between confusion and awakening was a thought that sent the three great chariots home. Even a person with such deep determination is prone to be lost, so the practice is to awaken him.

Question 09.

What is the feeling of entering into meditation?

Answer.

Entering into meditation is adding all the happiness in the world together, a feeling that only you know, because everyone has his or her own standard. No one has ever invented a word to describe it. Some people are happy driving a good car, some are happy eating good Tingsi. The standards are different, so the state of fixing is difficult to come out.

Question 10.

Why Buddha did not let people see past lives

You think about this truth, there is a person who takes the projector, which is the key to the warehouse of the eighth sense. Even if one knows about this life, it does not matter, the karma and karma of this life can not be released by the general personnel. The thinking of people is to be happy for one life, and they don't think about the things that lead to life and death, so it is better to cultivate it by yourself. Can not rely on magical powers

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